Suzie Dawson, leader of New Zealand’s Internet Party, spoke with the German Pirate Party this weekend as part of their annual conference. During her discussion, Dawson emphasized the value of non-conformity and argued against complacency in regards to the support of Wikileaks and Julian Assange.

In addition to leading the Internet Party of New Zealand, Dawson is a long-time activist and independent journalist. She was harassed by authorities in New Zealand to the point that she was eventually forced to seek asylum in Russia.

During her statements to the German Pirate Party conference, Dawson explained that over the last year she’d learned that success would not come out of using establishment methods. She stated: “I learned this year not to mirror the priorities of the system, but to set our own priorities and our own benchmarks for success.”

Dawson also spoke about the international influence of intelligence groups like Five Eyes, which she said ‘rendered national borders effectively meaningless.’ Nations that comprise the Five Eyes pact include Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States. Many view intelligence sharing under Five Eyes as a little-reported but important form of colonialization.

In her discussion, Dawson emphasized the necessity of anti establishment activist groups to collaborate internationally, in order to confront the globalization of intelligence collecting and sharing efforts. She also described her realization of the extent to which: “The media and the military industrial complex have ‘meddled’ in not only their own elections, but also the elections of allies.”

Dawson recounted that activists including Dr. Martin Luther King had had their historical achievments “sanitized posthumously.” Furthering her point, Dawson emphasized that: “we can not wait until our heroes are dead and gone.”

Dawson explained what she saw as true anti establishment resistance, which should not be confused in any way with what she called the “McResistance.”

She added: “No matter which administration is in power, left or right, they are going to target activists, they are going to target journalists. Are we going to wait for the demise of the organizations that protect us? Or are we going to put our petty social pressures aside and look at the more important issue? If we lost Julian or Wikileaks, it would not be an issue of tweets, it would be a threat to dismantle journalists and activists across the board.”

Dawson emphasized the singular importance of Wikileaks in providing an invaluable resource both in the sense of the information the organization provides that counters establishment media narratives, and also in the sense of taking the brunt of attacks which would otherwise fall on individual activists and journalists.

She said: “What if we lost Julian? What if we lost Wikileaks?… In what way would Julian’s legacy be sanitized after his death? Wikileaks is the bulwark that protects all of us. They have been the cornerstone of the resistance.”

Dawson then called for solidarity and increased support for Wikileaks, saying: “We must stand with Wikileaks and we must do so actively, in a way that we have not yet done. I side with targets. When someone is an FBI, CIA target, I stand with the targets. We need to look carefully at the persecution of these targets and the derision surrounding them. We need to ask who benefits. Who benefits if the targets fall? Solidarity is life.”